April 3, 2007...9:38 pm

I’ve Got Your Braveheart Jesus Right Here, Eldridge! An Opening Barrage

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So John Eldridge, author of the wildly popular Wild at Heart, tells us that most men in churches across America today are bored. OK, fair enough. But is adopting a posture toward the world at large and women in particular that is akin to kayaking down the Niagra Falls or urinating off impossibly high mountain cliffs in the name of unbridled manliness worthy of being considered an appropriate (or, for that matter, faithful) Christian response to the problem?

No pulling punches today, girls and guys. I’m getting this one off my chest.

I’ve come across so many guys that love Eldridge that I think I’ve begun to anticipate some of the responses to this initial barrage. Let’s take them one at a time, please. 

1. “Of course it’s not exactly ‘appropriate,’ but was Jesus ‘appropriate’?”

Well, obviously not. No first-century Jew who directs his time and energy preaching good news to the poor and bad news to the entrenched “religion-istas” of his place and time could be accused of having an overriding concern for “appropriate” behavior. But did he direct his disdain for the soul-crushing tedium of religious hypocrisy into outlets for alpha male behavior? Did he see the manipulation of God’s people in the very house of God and go Henry VIII on their butts? Some of you may say he did, but overturning tables in response to economic blasphemy is miles away from Braveheart face-bashing, in my opinion.

Jesus’ example does not give us necessarily a picture of appropriate beahvior for today’s world; but that is only to say that the way of Jesus sometimes rubs up against polite society. When we give our lives over to the rule of polite society, we will live a life that is sometimes at odds with the life lived under rule of the Kingdom of God, which has truths to express to us about human messiness that polite society simply cannot address. Anyway, the question here is not even about “appropriate behavior,” it’s about an appropriate Christian response; that is to say, How do we as Christians respond to a situation? I would argue that Eldridge’s vision of manhood is at odds with Christ’s vision of manhood.

2. “But, aren’t most men in churches across America today bored?”

I have not seen the empirical data that speaks to this fact, but OK, let’s play that game. So, most American Christian men are bored. They don’t want to be bored, so how do we kill that boredom? Through war movies and nature hikes? Now don’t get me wrong, we can learn a lot from some war movies (and absolutely nothing from others: see John Wayne), and I’m enough of an environmentalist to say that we actually learn quite a bit from spending time admiring Creation. But to suggest that the Christian way to make Christian men “not-bored”is to reinforce their dude-ness seems to suggest a secular answer, if you will. Does getting in touch with my inner man-beast get me closer to God, or does it get me closer to some American ideal of man? Here’s my suggestion: if we want to kill Christian men’s boredom, let’s not get them to engage in dangerous mountain excursions; let’s get them to accept some dangerous beliefs. And by dangerous beliefs I mean the Kingdom of God beliefs, the ones that take all of our assumptions about life (i.e., war is good, poverty is morally acceptable, things are good the way they are, women belong in the kitchen, some people are inferior to others) and flips them upside down and shakes them all around until we’re seeing things through Christ’s eyes. Not an easy view.

3. “Isn’t Elridge right when he says that men need an adventure to live and a beauty to rescue? His wife thinks so!”

Yeah, I know that Stacey Eldridge agrees with her husband on all of this. I’ve known women who love John and Stacey because they speak to the kind of household order they hope to establish. But generalizing this desire for a knight-husband and a damsel-in-distress-wife arrangement honestly offends honest Christian men and women who strive for what they see Scripture preaching as a more equitable household. That equality, these people would suggest, must be both physical and psychological. One woman I know (my wife, that is) gets fired up every time she reads Eldridge tell her that what she really wants is a shining white knight. In truth, she wants a husband that loves her for who she is (Renee-wife-daughter-sister-friend-employee-nurse-footballlover-OSUfan-comedian-confidant) rather than what she isn’t (fairyprincess-Rapunzel-SnowWhite). At the same time, she sees me in the very same way, as a sum of the roles I play and myself in an entirety, not a sum of mythological desires and Walt Disney-planted wishes. That is what I want. Leave the adventures for the movies, which are never real anyway. Give me Renee, the person with whom I share this messy life.

4. “Well, aren’t men inherently violent, though?”

Men satisfying their need for adventure apparently requires a little spilling of blood here and there, so says Eldridge. This, he says, is a good thing. Now if we accept his position that men are inherently violent, does that mean that we should indulge that violent tendency? When I read the New Testament, I see a constant theme of chaotic nature needing radical transformation. Paul says that there was an old man, and now there is a new man. Before/After. I was one way, now because of Christ I am another. Because we are a certain way, does that give us license to indulge in that behavior? The biblical witness seems to say, No.

Right about now, I’m gonna need some feedback. Send me your thoughts. I don’t think I’m through with Mr. Eldridge yet.

And hopefully the next post will be a little nicer.

17 Comments

  • my…that post was a rather violently verbally vociferous if you ask me. It’s almost like you had a giant e-sword coming out of your e-mouth. I couldn’t agree more.

  • a couple notes before i get into real commenting. did you have to go and pick on Braveheart and John Wayne? like daggers to my heart, even if your right on the John Wayne war movies.

    i would have to agree with eldridge that most men have difficulty finding their place in churches. for whatever reason, many men aren’t being what God wanted them to be in the Church. and that leaves a gaping hole in the Church’s witness.

    where i think you’re right is attacking eldridge’s suggestions. what we should be trying to do is instill the values of Jesus in our men, encouraging them to have strong relationships with God. that will transform their lives. that will provide the sense of adventure eldridge says man men are looking for. for some, that will be hikes through the forest. for others that will be praying in a garden. the Church can allow men to freely find ways to connect with God.

  • Eldridge smeldrige…Ray Comfort is the new voice for men everywhere…his analysis of the hand and bananas…one word…genius!

    I won’t say anything else because we have talked this over ad naseum and I would rather let Eldridge be so that he can go rappell naked in Moab (with his leather bound “Wild at Heart” journal complete with video where he and six of his friends let it all fly in a manly adventourous tour de force of Christian spirituality…sorry, I said I would let it go didn’t I…)…

  • Hey bro, I hate to bring personal details into the discussion, but if you’re going to downplay men’s needs for violent behavior, you need to come clean about your particular taste for a little game called “GTA”. I am not immune from this pleasure either.

    As for the book, I’m with you. His preferred life of wilderness exploits and male-dominated marriages is not the proper way to imitate Christ’s life. But we all need a little GTA (and Medal of Honor) once in a while.

  • John, I agree with you. I would say of course most men in American churches are bored – most Americans in general are probably bored! The reason for the church existing is to provide an alternative to the mudane worldly life. We should exist to exemplify God’s Kingdom, not just suggest yet another American answer (be a real man, etc.)

    Thanks to my brother for pointing out my hypocrisies. Perhaps only he knows of the hours he and I spent sticking it to the man in GTA. Finding a good sniper position on the roof of a three-story building might not be behavior which could be considered “lined-up” with Christ’s message, but I will say this: the siren call of GTA is not proof of the violent nature of men only. For evidence of this fact, you should’ve seen Renee when she found out about the gang war mode in GTA San Andreas. She painted Los Santos red!

  • Clint, I have to say that I agree with you on most points. I had a huge problem with the one story in Wild at Heart where Elderidge encourages his son to hurt another kid at school who was pushing his son around. Violence only begets violence. It should be the very, very last resort in any situation, if at all. Especially when it comes to the playground.

    However, I do want to point out that Elderidge does make some valid points about men being culturally nuetered. (sp?) Turn on the T.V. and watch an episode of Everybody Loves Ramond, Friends, King of Queens, and even Family Guy (as much as I love Family Guy!). Each portrays a man who does not have the “balls” to stand up to his own wife, or is inheriently disorganized and stupid, while his wife is the brains behind the family. Interestingly enough we have movies like School of Scoundrals that emphasize this every point. In fact, the movie argues for men to “step it up” but also warns against hyper man-power sought through ultra competitive means. Just my two cents on the issue.

  • I’m wondering at this point if anyone here has actually read any of John Elderidge’s books in their entirety.

    The summation of his books are not “manhood = blood and mountain climbing.” His conclusion is a statement of what it looks like to walk in the image of God in His fullness, not the weak flannelboard Jesus we grew up with in Sunday school who smiled at everyone so they would like him.

    I lead a cell group at my church which has about 10 guys in it. The passivity many of the men deal with (not stepping forward and leading due to fear and insecurity) is incredible. Almost all these men will tell you their fathers were not involved in their lives, so they get their “manhood” clues too often from our culture or other women in their lives. They need the messages Elderidge is sharing in his books.

    I agree that I was taken back by what he told his son when he told him to stick up for himself. However, part of me wonders what the church would look like today if all the men attending had fathers who taught them to stand up for what is right. Now that’s something to think about…

  • I appreciate your comments Wesley and think that it is easy to end up with a caricature of someone’s position, which is a temptation for me when it comes to Eleridge. Yes, I have read one of his books in its entirety (Waking the Dead) and spent most of the time wanting to fling the thing across the room (but I finished it and tried to give him a fair hearing in the midst of it). I agree with you that it is a confusing time if you are looking for stereotypical “manhood” clues in the culture and that we are seeing the results of broken relationships where sons and daughters are not receiving parental love, care, and attention.

    But that is my problem with Elderidge, he attempts to find the “solution” by naturalizing traditional male stereotypes (Men must be warriors, strong, adventurous…I don’t think this is a caricature) and then throwing a thin veneer of really bad Scriptual prooftexting on top of it and than selling it to the community that is most confused over the loss of stereotypical “manhood” (really conservative Christianity).

    I think we need sons and daughters who can stand up for what is right and be willing to live in the terrifying and redemptive manner in which Christ lived and that takes not only parents but a COMMUNITY who is willing to embody, nurture, and be faitful to living out the life of Christ. While Elderidge at times seems to hint at the role of the community, it seems like overall (my impression) he is more committed to an individualistic perspective that roots faith in some type of deep “feeling” experience, which I happen to see to as leading us in a bad direction. Perhaps we need to live like Christ whether we “feel” like it or not and that is what it means to be a “strong” person committed to following in the way of the Cross. I do appreciate his attempt to reclaim a sense of “activity” for faith (a huge problem in evangelicalism seems to be the passivity of our faith, “punch our ticket Jesus and lets get to heaven”, rather than actively living the faith)and I applaud him for that.

    Part of me wonders what the church would like today if it had a people who taught its children to stand up for what is right through embracing the Cross…Now that’s something to think about…unfortunately, IMO, Elderidge does not help us get to that point…

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